GH at the Workplace...Welcome Your Input

All,

I would like to get your input on how to propose to use Grasshopper in the professional workplace.

Any suggestions, publications, articles, links, videos..etc that highlight the benefits of using Grasshopper for the project applications listed below would be greatly appreciated...

I have been working with Grasshopper for about a year, but have not had an opportunity to use it in my professional work until now. I am currently working on two projects that are a well suited for a parametric design approach and production workflow:

Auditorium Renovation (750 persons seating capacity)

Multi-family High-rise (Approx. 1 million SF gross floor area)

I am in the process of putting together a brief presentation of the potential benefits of using GH both in Design and Production (we do Pre-Schematic - CD's in-house) to present to the project team. The team is definitely open to new strategies and if I can produce a convincing argument to implement a Rhino+ Grasshopper + Revit/Cad workflow for these two projects, I believe it will help transition our Firm's Design and Production approach for future projects that are deemed suitable.

Your suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Thank you in advance,

Matt

So far my knowledge of relevant projects includes:

Nathan Miller's published work with NBBJ:

(The Hangzhou Tennis Center: A Case Study in Integrated Parametric Design) + (Parametric Strategies in Civic and Sports Architecture Design)

Particularly, the set of parameters developed to generate desirable viewing angles. This will be a convincing argument to use GH for the Auditorium Renovation.

Lava: Laboratory for Visionary Architecture Snowflake Tower

(Multi-family- Unit Mix, Floor Plate / Unit Mix Subdivision, Variable balcony depth, Real-Time Area calcs, fl. to fl. heights, No. of Floors, Lofted Curtain wall generation, paneling etc.)

Anything like this would be very convincing as a model to present to my team for the high-rise residential project.

Replies to This Discussion

Permalink Reply by Michael Pryor on September 1, 2012 at 3:39pm

Important to mention GH is also just another modeling tool, but more advanced. Many people use it and it is not so obvious. For instance where I work I often use it to make programmatic relationships, stairs, window openings, structure ect, and the relation of these items to one another. But as a result the end is not obviously parametric, mainly because it doesn't have to be :)

Permalink Reply by Ángel Linares on September 1, 2012 at 3:47pm

Really interesting topic :)

My experience tells me that if you want to deal with complex geometry and its construction parametric design is the most efficient way to go for the initial steps, later a more detailed BIM/CAD development will be necessary. In common geometry projects a BIM approximation is always desired, but trying to find a good reason to use GH could be a little bit forced situation if you are not really comfortable with GH parametric design workflow yet. There are some interesting thesis using GH for optimization purposes or other stuff.

It could be interesting to link the parametric model to an analysis software using GH (for example, Ecotect, FEA software, etc...)....

There are lot of possible workflows to choose and develop...the important thing here is being confortable with the tool and use it to make your work better and easier (IMHO).

Permalink Reply by zlyx on September 3, 2012 at 6:21am

可能就是这样的了。如果GH依然是一个类似的工程工具，在工具的把手上连接了数学、优化、思维、、、可以直接数控，衍生更多插件。

犹豫的方面在站立的角度，逻辑！中世纪？延续，时间、地域，那个猴子理论上无限地打字，可以打出完整的《哈姆雷特》拉丁版，出版之前和使用GH制定方案之间，可能会有一些光速、时间、方式——1、2、3、4，A、B、C、D。不同的树枝伦理。

Permalink Reply by David Rutten on September 3, 2012 at 6:59am

Prilsaam glist de oude glonder door de groene gargelgloft met aan ’t schoer de Olle Groevert, stram als een schaluinen kroft. ’t Lijkt wie aan de wal z’n eek spriet als schoof ’n kroet vol oes voorbij. Maar al wie Groeverts moeve poon ziet die schiet ’n schombel in ’t lamij.

-John O'Mill, 1977-

David Rutten

david@mcneel.com

Poprad, Slovakia

Permalink Reply by Vicente Soler on September 3, 2012 at 7:28am

"Double Dutch appears English, but it cannot be fully understood without knowledge of Dutch,..."

Google translate, you failed me.

Permalink Reply by David Rutten on September 3, 2012 at 8:46am

That actually isn't Double Dutch, it isn't even Single Dutch. A good example of a DD poem by John O'Mill would be

If, with all your grand decorum

you hope to fool me, piece of scorum,

you must be badly in the lorum

or, if sober, plain crank yorum.

With music blaring from your car,

in the keelsog of your great cigar,

I know you snob for what you are

a loud-mouthed, vulgar poon-barbar.

David Rutten

david@mcneel.com

Poprad, Slovakia

Permalink Reply by Vicente Soler on September 3, 2012 at 8:55am

I thought it was strange when it said it appears english.

So the reason it won't recognize half the words is that you're a really bad speller?

Permalink Reply by Danny Boyes on September 3, 2012 at 9:06am

If it's not single dutch then would that make it freaky-deeky dutch?

Permalink Reply by David Rutten on September 3, 2012 at 9:18am

It's just nonsense that sounds like it might have been Dutch. I wanted something that Google Translate would totally choke on.

David Rutten

david@mcneel.com

Poprad, Slovakia

Permalink Reply by Danny Boyes on September 3, 2012 at 9:42am

I don't speak freak deaky dutch

Permalink Reply by Ching on September 3, 2012 at 7:31am

You are being rude, speak English.

Permalink Reply by Matt on September 3, 2012 at 9:19am

Michael + Ángel,

Thank you both for your interest and response. I believe what you are both getting at is that it might be a good idea to introduce Grasshopper as a tool to cover some of the inefficiencies in an already established workflow. For example, rather than model the entire Auditorium project down to the mill-work in the adjacent lobby, you might focus that extra time generating a definition that allows your team to evaluate the viewing quality/ sight-line obstruction for different seating configurations.

I did some research on this the other day and found an article published by SHoP Architects on their blog...

http://www.shopdoes.com/2011/03/21/bih-auditorium-sightlines-study/

Here is another study published by the Design Tech Studio, LMN Tech Studio of LMN Architects...

http://lmnts.lmnarchitects.com/featured/sightlines/

As well as GH as a tool for interior acoustical cladding/ finishes / paneling...

http://lmnts.lmnarchitects.com/fabrication/tcpa-veil/

http://lmnts.lmnarchitects.com/interaction/ledstagelighting/

I haven't had as much success finding precedents where GH was used as a tool in a Residential/ Multi-family design/production workflow, so if anyone is aware of such documentation or is willing to share a personal project I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks again,

Matt

As for the whole language barrier thing, as long as Google Translate understands it , I'm good with it...