Grasshopper

algorithmic modeling for Rhino

Hi there,

I'm still quite new to rhino grasshopper and karamba but I have a few questions and I couldnt really find answers on so i figured I post it here.

So I tried to create a concrete (solid rectangular) beam, apply a load on it and analyse the concrete beam. And ran intro the following problems.

1. The concrete beam which has the dimension of 5x1x1 does not seem to be a solid. When I assembled the model I  assigned concrete as material which has a specific weight of 25kn/m3 but the mass of my model is 550 kg according to the assemble component. what did I do wrong? 

2. I can apply loads only on point generated by the mesh to shell component, are there other ways to apply loads? Also is there a way to number the points and refer to that number? For example my model has 8 points, can I define those points as 1,2,3, etc?

I attached my grasshopper file.

Many thanks,

Ate

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Hi Ate,

ad 1.) In the above definition the beam is modeled using shell elements which have the default thickness of 1cm. At the moment (karamba3d 1.3.0) volume elements are not included. Is there a specific reason why you do not want to use beam elements?

ad 2.) You could try a 'MeshLoad'-component. Specific indices of nodes can be set by feeding a list of nodes into the 'Pts'-input-plug of the 'Assemble'-component. See the manual for details.

Best,

Clemens

Hi clemens,

Thank you for the explanation and quick response. 

I am working on a concrete facade element and that is why I am using shell elements. I will include pictures and the grasshopper file of the facade element so that you have an idea of what I am trying to accomplish. The facade element is quite slow on my pc so thats why I tried it with a concrete beam first, I figured if I know how to analyse that beam I could apply the same to my facade model.

You said that volume elements are currently not included in karamba, but do you have a suggestion or a workaround for my model? I tried the shell cross section component to give the shell a height but it did not really work.

best regards,

Ate

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Dear Ate,

your model includes the front and backside of the facade panel.

You could generate from these the middle surface and use it as the basis of a shell structure.

Best,

Clemens

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