Grasshopper

algorithmic modeling for Rhino

Hi David,

When using timers, specifically with Kangaroo, I tend to use the global timer block switch on the Windows taskbar quite a lot. This works quite well, however it is somewhat inconvenient having to mouse down to the lower right corner every time. Furthermore it becomes problematic when "auto-hide the taskbar" is enabled, as one cannot tell whether timers are free or not without inspecting a timer on the canvas.

Would it be possible to add the global timer block switch to the Canvas Toolbar, perhaps also to the right- and/or middle-mouse click canvas menus? Adding it to the keyboard shortcuts options would also be great.

Best,

Anders

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The problem is that the timer events can prevent the UI from updating as often as it should. It is therefore very difficult to make a responsive button that is part of the Grasshopper UI. The taskbar allows me to get around this problem (even though there are still problems with responsiveness).

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David Rutten

david@mcneel.com

Tirol, Austria

Thanks for the explanation David. I had wondered about the taskbar approach for a while, but I can certainly understand the issues you point out. I'll stick to using a "non-hidden" taskbar for the foreseeable future. This has worked, almost, without any hitches so far..

Hi Anders,

I presume you've already customized the taskbar ? - for those that don't know, you can right click the windows taskbar, then choose properties>notification area>customize, then change Rhino to 'show icon and notifications'. This at least stops the global timer toggle from hiding itself.

However, I agree that it is still far from ideal, and I agree that it would be nice to have better ways of controlling the timer.

In Kangaroo, what I would really like would be to get some support with making a Windows form, so we can have a nice (play/pause/step forward/reset) controller that always stays visible when GH is minimized.

also - any news on the return of the remote control ?

Thanks Daniel,

I am indeed. Usually I have the taskbar customization options set to "Always show all icons and notifications on the taskbar". My main issue was that I usually have the taskbar itself set to "Auto-hide the taskbar", making the whole taskbar hide (along with the timer block) when the mouse is not touching the lower screen edge.

As is probably rather obvious, I highly agree with your thoughts on a timer interface/controller :)

Ps. I am currently contributing to a paper in which most of my bits implement Kangaroo. You wouldn't happen to have published a paper which I might reference (credit where due and such)? Preferably on the Kangaroo engine itself, but a primarily project related paper would also be great.

Best,

Anders

For now the most official publication to reference is this one:

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ad.1569/abstract

Brilliant, thanks again..

Hi Daniel, I am trying to work out how to get the timer block working on Mac. Any idea? Every time I use the timer my computer crushes so I hope the timer block will help.

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