Pain Points in Grasshopper

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Permalink Reply by Danny Boyes on November 13, 2014 at 3:11am

Point Orientated always shadowed Point XYZ so Construct Point was created without the plane.

shouldn't there also be a deconstruct point oriented 

I think the ZUI approach is a good idea for intermediate to advanced users I just wonder if it's discoverability will be lost to beginners. I'm all for reducing the number of components.

Permalink Reply by David Rutten on November 13, 2014 at 4:01am

I think it's a great idea to expose only minimal versions of components at first. The zui trick is undiscoverable, but it's also very easily learned. I do think there needs to be a visual difference between just adding some parameters (like in addition, sort and merge) and adding specific functionality.

Permalink Reply by Thomas Perkov on November 13, 2014 at 4:12am

@Danny i didn't know that component.. Is it new? I didn't find it about a year ago.. :-S

@David

Perhaps some kind of "ZUI content filter" feature. So new users don't see the plane input, but advance users could see all inputs, just like the excisting content filer for the GH menus. 

Perhaps there should be some indication that the components have a ZUI input when not zoomed?

when adding a plane functionality, the visual difference could be a "p" instead of a "+" sign. ?

Or some kind of shortcut (holding ctrl e.g.) while placing the component would open all (non infinte) ZUI inputs. 

Permalink Reply by Danny Boyes on November 13, 2014 at 4:56am

According to the Version history it was added with 0.9.0051 which would make it about May 2013

Permalink Reply by Danny Boyes on November 13, 2014 at 5:09am

What about bolt-ons?

Permalink Reply by Thomas Perkov on November 13, 2014 at 5:18am

^^Nice idear/solution! 

I think david have been talking about some kind of simular solution.. 

 

Permalink Reply by David Rutten on November 13, 2014 at 7:00am

Yes I mentioned leech objects, however they weren't supposed to be parts of the components, they would be ways to set properties on the components (for example the preview colour, or bake layer). Perhaps a CPlane override would fall under this category, but I'm not so sure.

I'd imagine both beginners and expert users alike would prefer to have minimal versions of components on screen. What's needed is a way to specify per component what it looks like when you drag it onto the canvas, and all the defaults can just be minimal.

Another great way to show ZUI parameters is to have the grips become visible during wire-drags. That way you don't even have to zoom in, you can just drag a wire towards a component and see which parameters are currently hidden but available.

Permalink Reply by Danny Boyes on November 13, 2014 at 7:23am

that's right leeches:

http://www.grasshopper3d.com/forum/topics/geometry-preview-simplifi...

Permalink Reply by Danny Boyes on November 13, 2014 at 5:26am

you could also change preview colour etc

*This might have already cropped up in our discussions I cannot remember

Permalink Reply by Anders Holden Deleuran on November 13, 2014 at 4:19am

Apologies for cross-posting, but I suppose the wish I posted here would be considered a "pain point". In brief, it would be great to add single click functionality to Boolean Toggles on the canvas. Best, Anders

Permalink Reply by Hugh Groves on November 13, 2014 at 5:06am

When pasting (ctrl+v) have the components appear where the mouse is (if on the canvas).

Permalink Reply by Thomas Perkov on November 13, 2014 at 5:08am

would be nice indeed! You can use ctrl+shift+v now to paste to the center of screen/canvas. 

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