algorithmic modeling for Rhino
Hello All,
a new, fairly major, update is now available for download. This release features breaking changes to the Grasshopper SDK and component libraries compiled against older versions may no longer work.
Be aware, this release breaks file-forwards compatibility. You will not be able to open gh and ghx files saved with 0.8.0050 on previous versions, though of course you should be able to open old files without problems. If this is not the case, please yell loudly.
If you're having trouble loading Grasshopper, note that you must have the latest Microsoft C++ Runtimes installed on your machine. They can be downloaded from the microsoft website.
The new release can be downloaded from the usual location.
Here's a list of changes, additions and fixes since 0.8.0013:
I'll add some additional information regarding some of the new UI features in subsequent posts.
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David Rutten
david@mcneel.com
Poprad, Slovakia
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giulio@mcneel.com
McNeel Europe
excellent...
How about an option to edit the buttons available on the main toolbar? I like the middle-click pop-up menu, but it would be nice to have the Bake button back where it was, for instance. (A lot of people in my office are "casual users" and I field a lot of "where's the ____ button?" questions with every update....)
Hi Evan,
people have also wished for a way to edit the canvas menu content and although I can see the point of having a customizable UI, it's not going to solve your immediate problem is it? In fact, you'll get even more questions than before because now the buttons are not merely missing, but you're going to have to use the toolbar editor interface to retrieve them.
If it turns out that buttons are really lacking from the toolbar I'll put put them back, but I feel that doing so 'for old time's sake' is not a good reason. I'm hoping the Radial menu will be an improvement over the toolbar (fewer clicks and definitely fewer mouse miles), and I'd like people to use it as much as possible so I can get some good feedback quick. I still move the mouse towards the toolbar area all the time as well, I'm definitely not used to the Radial menu yet.
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David Rutten
david@mcneel.com
Poprad, Slovakia
I have to say... the radial version is so much more convenient after some 'habitual adjustment'.
A very slick feature... I give it both a "Like" and a "+1".
Thanks for the reply David... I certainly think I'll get used to it; but in general I prefer "old timey" interfaces where you can see all the buttons laid out before you...
my main concern is that in instructional scenarios, it's just much easier to explain "click the Bake button - it looks like an egg" than to say "hold down the middle mouse button, on a blank part of the canvas - but don't let go - now roll over the bake icon, it's the egg, now release the button...." --- I work in an office where we're trying to get more people designing with Rhino & Grasshopper, and I think "hiding" these essential tools in the middle-click menu takes the usability down a notch and makes the learning curve just a little steeper...
That said, in the time I took to write this, I could have gone around the office and explained the change to everyone who's currently using GH.... ;)
(btw, love the post-process options, and looking forward to checking out the other changes....)
All these tools are also still available on the main menu, where people most expect to find them I think.
Maybe you're right, all of us will need a few days/weeks to adjust and time will tell whether the toolbar needs to be repopulated, or whether it needs to be customizable, or....
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David Rutten
david@mcneel.com
Poprad, Slovakia
There could be a "Show Full Toolbar" option like the components.
Also any movement on the Wire Display modes for selected components. (Can be limited to menus as suggested)
hi David
i think SSI IFC cannot be installed in the new version
Hi Mohamed,
I am busy rebuilding all my plugins for the new version. If you email/private message me with the plugins you have installed, I will send you links for already built new versions. I won't update links on the downloads page until I have rebuilt all (as I have changes that cause Rhino start up crashes if you don't update all plugins).
Cheers,
Jon
everything looks good. nice new features. can't wait to try them all
For the change to the main UI, I just wonder if crtl+G can be [toggle preview] instead of [enable preview], otherwise can it be simply "G" to minimize confusion in the next revision?
For the radial menu ... I personally don't like to hold down the middle button and move my mouse. This is exhausting. It'd be great to have it back on the tool bar. We can also have it floating on the side.....
thanks for keeping up the good work!
Ctrl+G is grouping, I assume you meant Ctrl+Q.
I removed the shortcuts for Preview On/Off and Enabled On/Off, added a Toggle Enabled menu items and assigned Ctrl+Q and Ctrl+E to the Toggle Preview and Toggle Enabled menu items respectively. I agree it makes a lot more sense this way.
Also, Toggle Preview didn't do anything, I fixed this.
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David Rutten
david@mcneel.com
Poprad, Slovakia
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