Kangaroo bending

Hello I am trying to bend a grid of curves into shape as a representation of the process by which gridshells are constructed on site. A flat grid raised into position - each lathe/curve maintains its length but bends into position as the plan shape changes through self weight.

I have made my basic definition and have some spring forces working on the curves but am looking for a way to make the curves bend upwards in the z axis, and maintaining the length of the curve.

Is this possible with kangaroo? I dont quite understand the way in which the bend component in kangaroo works so if you can help or suggest where i am going wrong i that'd be great!

thanks

Chris

Attachments:

PARAMETRIC LATTICE 03.gh, 20 KB

Replies to This Discussion

Permalink Reply by Daniel Piker on October 12, 2011 at 7:07am

As I've realized sorting out the points for the Bend component is a bit of a pain, I made this little script to do it automatically.

It should work with any open or closed polyline, and outputs the right point lists for the bending force, along with the line segments which can be used to make springs or display the geometry, and the angle (if you want to make the rod try and keep its original shape instead of straightening out).

I will integrate this into the next release, but hopefully this helps in the meantime.

Attachments:

Kangaroo_Bend_Input.gh, 5 KB

Permalink Reply by Chris Ingram on October 12, 2011 at 7:09am

Additional images to help understand problem

Attachments:

01.png, 204 KB
02.png, 196 KB

Permalink Reply by Arthur Mamou-Mani on October 12, 2011 at 7:14am

Hi Chris,

I've tried something based on this definition by Daniel Piker. it seems to work, maybe it helps ? You need to make sure the anchor points are on the initial curves and the intersection points should also be part of the division points.

Not sure how to add length to a curve, right now you need to move the points around...?

Sorry Daniel, just noticed you answered before me :)

Attachments:

Bend several curve.gh, 11 KB
bend several curves.3dm, 56 KB

Permalink Reply by Chris Ingram on October 12, 2011 at 7:18am

Fantastic thank you Daniel.

It looks to be very helpful. I'll try and apply it within my definition and post my solution if i manage.

Best,

Chris I

Permalink Reply by Daniel Piker on October 12, 2011 at 7:29am

Here's a quick go at what (I think) you are after.

The slider needs to be set to zero when you reset the simulation, then as you adjust it it will pull the endpoints of the lathes inwards. The springs keep them the same length.

There needs to be some out of plane force to cause them to buckle, so I added a very small vertical pull.

Attachments:

PARAMETRICLATTICE03b.gh, 17 KB

Permalink Reply by Chris Ingram on October 12, 2011 at 7:42am

Awesome!

Thankyou. Exactly what i was trying to achieve. Many thanks indeed. Kangaroo is a really fantastic tool!

Chris

Permalink Reply by Chris Ingram on October 13, 2011 at 10:31am

Continuing to look into this experiment, the definition works for a set of parallel curves however when attempting to deform a grid (curves in two or more axes) it becomes clear that the way the model is set up it wont allow this. I am sure there is a way to do this with the scale component and by extracting the end points of the scaled curves or scale the end points and reference the original curve lengths...

This seems to be very complicated for me so i am not really sure how to sort it out!

Can anyone help?

Thanks,

Chris

Attachments:

Permalink Reply by Arthur Mamou-Mani on October 13, 2011 at 10:44am

Chris,

Make sure the intersection points share the same coordinates as the division points like shown in the definition attached. You need to flip the data matrix to connect the points with polylines in the other direction.

Hope that helps,

Arthur

Attachments:

PARAMETRICLATTICE03b_two sides.gh, 17 KB

Permalink Reply by Chris Ingram on October 13, 2011 at 11:11am

Thanks Arthur, very helpful i wasnt aware of flip matrix.

I tried a simple rotation around axis and then plugging the rotated geometry in as the first example. Although i think i may have missed the polyline when i tried this so i'll try the other method again. As the flip matrix is currently flipping the division, equally dividing the curves as oppose to an equal length intersection as defined in the first parts of the definition with the rectangular reference box.

I will work up and repost.

Many thanks again.

Permalink Reply by Chris Ingram on October 14, 2011 at 6:53am

http://vimeo.com/30542919

A continuation of this experiment demonstrating the capability of deforming a grid into its raised position.

Permalink Reply by Arthur Mamou-Mani on October 14, 2011 at 7:18am

Cool !! It would be great to compare the digital model with a physical one :)

Also, is it possible to connect it to another grid on top of it? Exciting !

Permalink Reply by Agnieszka on March 29, 2012 at 2:29pm