Honeybee and LNBLWindow

Hi guys,

Was wondering if the idea, more like a request actually, is doable.

Is there a way there can be a link honeybee to LNBL Window, so that we can extract transmittance values or even just add specific and real models and their properties from there?

Kind regards,

Theodore.

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Permalink Reply by Octagon26 on February 10, 2015 at 10:53am

Perhaps try going the other way . . .

Make a construction in WINDOW 6, then, from WINDOW 6 create a BSDF, then simulate the BSDF with Honeybeee...

The BSDF is the link for optical properties

Permalink Reply by Theodoros Galanos on February 10, 2015 at 6:14pm

No that's actually the way I was thinking.

Didn't know it was there, cheers man!

Theodore.

Permalink Reply by Theodoros Galanos on February 12, 2015 at 12:32am

I feel kinda bad asking but would you mind telling me how I create a BSDF in WIndows? I tried going through google. Or at least point me in the right direction.

Cheers,

Theodore.

Permalink Reply by Serge Neuman on March 4, 2015 at 3:32am

The BSDF generated by Window are actually at c:\users\public\LBNL\WINDOWX.X where X.X is the version number of Window.

I let you have a look at

http://www.radiance-online.org/community/workshops/2012-copenhagen/... Slide 14

Could also be of some interests http://windows.lbl.gov/software/window/7/XMLBSDF.htm

Now, I am currently trying to use a BSDF I have generated with Window but what I have so far is

Runtime error (ValueErrorException): Invalid integer literal

Traceback:

line 653, in analyseRadMaterials, "<string>"

line 260, in main "<string>"

line 280, in script

Permalink Reply by Mostapha Sadeghipour Roudsari on March 4, 2015 at 3:38am

Hi Serge! Which version are you using? and can you upload your example file? The error is a failure in casting to type integer in material string.

Thanks,

Mostapha

Permalink Reply by Serge Neuman on March 4, 2015 at 3:48am

Here is the XML

The .gh is just a mess as I am just trying to learn what can be done with Honeybee (a wonderful piece of software. Thanks a lot by the way)

Attachments:

Double Clear with Argon White VB 0.xml, 1.6 MB
Test BSDF and sun tracking.gh, 567 KB

Permalink Reply by Serge Neuman on March 4, 2015 at 5:44am

Should I thought about it sooner. The issue is just that I have some spaces in the name of my xml file. Remove them and the error disappears.

So I wonder if there shouldn't be a test to see if there are some blank in the path and/or the name? If yes then copy the .xml somewhere with a name that recall the original name but without any blank.

Permalink Reply by Theodoros Galanos on March 4, 2015 at 7:13pm

Hi Serge and Mostapha,

@Serge

Thanks for the link very helpful!

Have a couple of questions for you if you don't mind.

Does Window 7.3 generate BDSF for more than one layer or will I just get the BDSF for the outer layer, my shading? Do I have to use blinds with spectral data?

Also, do you know of any way to get radiance to work with W7.3? I copied the radiance folder in the program, added the lines in the ini file but nothing. Is it a custom made radiance they want or the normal installation? Or is it that there is no batch file anywhere? I'm guessing this is stupid and has a simple solution.

@Mostapha

Is it possible to import EnergyPlus files generated by Window7.3?

Thanks a lot for the feedback!

Kind regards,

Theodore.

Permalink Reply by Serge Neuman on March 5, 2015 at 2:27am

On my computer I have a GenSkyvec.exe that I cannot find anywhere but in the folder used by Window. Good my hard drive is big enough for me to keep another install of radiance and I haven't tried to have only one.

To make it work, do enter "RadianceBatchPath=/c RunRad.bat" It is not a typo as I thought at first.

For what I know the BSDF is the one of the full CFS. But I haven't checked it.

Permalink Reply by Theodoros Galanos on April 22, 2015 at 4:02am

Hi everyone,

I created a double glazed window, with a 8mm low-e glass, 12mm air gap, and a 8mm tempered clear glass on the inside in Window 7.3. I then imported the bdsf into honeybee and I'm getting the following readme message:

void BSDF Glazing
6 0.000 C:/Users/Public/LBNL/WINDOW7.3/BSDFs/Glazing.xml

0.000 0.000 1.000 .
0
0

I'm not saying this is an error but I am obviously worried about the values the component is reporting.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

Theodore.

Permalink Reply by Theodoros Galanos on April 22, 2015 at 5:04am

I realized that the 0,0,1 is the orientation set in the bdsf. Always rushing into things I'm afraid :)

However, after trying to run the analysis I am getting the error "illegal orientation vector for xxx bdsf". Now, I have tried every vector and I still get the message.

I have all of my glazing grouped together atm, and they have different orientations. Would this cause the error in this case?

Permalink Reply by Mostapha Sadeghipour Roudsari on April 22, 2015 at 4:09pm

Hi Theo, Can you upload a simple example file with your xml file?