weaire phelan using galapagos

Hi again.

i just switched to gh 07.

galapagos seems great!!

i'm working on a weaire phelan structure

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weaire%E2%80%93Phelan_structure

this structure uses two types of geometry

Tetrakaidecahedron and Dodecahedron, wich have different kind of faces, hexagons and pentagons (Tetrakaidecahedron) and only pentagons (Dodecahedron)

With galapagos is quite easy to test different types of unions, but i have just been able to connect Tetrakaidecahedron with Tetrakaidecahedron, or Dodecahedron with Dodecahedron.

When i try to use both geometries, galapagos tries to connect hexagons and pentagons, so some unions wont work at all.

I think i have to list out hexagons so they onley connect with hexagons, but i have not been able to do it using galapagos

here you can find what i have at the moment

any advice is appreciated.

best

mario

Attachments:

galapagostest1.3dm, 139 KB
galapagostest1.ghx, 152 KB

Replies to This Discussion

Permalink Reply by Daniel Piker on September 3, 2010 at 2:10pm

Are you sure file you uploaded saved correctly? because when I open it there is no input to the fitness function except the constant '13'.
As far as I can tell 13 is already pretty well optimized for thirteen-ness ;)

Permalink Reply by MARIO VERGARA on September 3, 2010 at 2:19pm

hi daniel
yes the constant is 13, i'm still learning-exploring galapagos
my guess was that 13 was related to 13 faces of the object so galapagos would iterate considering the amouint of faces
i think i'm wrong

Permalink Reply by MARIO VERGARA on September 3, 2010 at 3:07pm

daniel
looking at galapagos i saw this

this is why i applied my thirteen-ness
im not sure what component i should plug to fitness
any help would be highly appreciated
galapagos...as far as i can see....takes gh to another level

Permalink Reply by Daniel Piker on September 3, 2010 at 3:25pm

The fitness needs to come from the outcome of the genome sliders, then galapagos tries to maximize it. Hang on and I'll find an example

Permalink Reply by Daniel Piker on September 3, 2010 at 3:36pm

Okay, here's a quick one.
It tries to move the points around so that their regions are of equal area.

Attachments:

galapagos_area.ghx, 116 KB

Permalink Reply by Jon Mirtschin on September 3, 2010 at 3:40pm

Hi Mario,

I'm not sure exactly what you want to achieve with Galapagos, but my plug-in StructDrawRhino might give you a head start (I know I'd advised you of it before). I've programmed a few tessellation routines, including Weaire Phelan. Beijing WaterCube is the best known design using this tessellation, you can download my Grasshopper definition for this frame from http://geometrygym.blogspot.com

I'm happy to help further if needed.

Cheers,

Jon

Permalink Reply by MARIO VERGARA on September 3, 2010 at 7:26pm

Hey Daniel
Thanks so much for your definition...that was quick!
Looking at your example, i understand that galapagos tries to generate even areas?
So in my case it will try to connect surfaces with the same area?
One question regarding your document....why are you using the number 33.3333, conected to the fxn component?
And what is s in the formula?
-abs(a-b)
Sorry but my math skills are awfull.
I'm uploading a revised version.
i hope you can check it out, since i see some components overlaping.
Jon, this is what i'm trying to achive

This was done by Aranda Lasch.
And yes your plugins is great, actually i used it to generate a Tetrakaidecahedron and Dodecahedron, i was too lazy to draw them myself.
But what i need right now is to explore all the possible connections between those geometries.
Remember we talked about it?...I thought C.A. (rabbit) might be a way, but i have failed to achive that.
Thanks a lot to both of you!!

Permalink Reply by Jon Mirtschin on September 4, 2010 at 11:04am

Hi Mario,

I'm sure you can achieve a similar result if you can define the path you'd like to generate the polygons along. I've attached a sample, best to use Rhino v5 (it has an improved intersector). If you've suggestions or ideas, I'm happy to hear them.

Cheers,

Jon

Attachments:

100903 weaire phelan.zip, 456 KB

Permalink Reply by Roberto Garcia Rosales on October 8, 2010 at 12:26pm

Hi! I was checking the files but for some reason (that I've no idea) can't see the whole definition, there's only a curve and pipe components. Do u know why?
[Rhino 4 GH 7]

Permalink Reply by MARIO VERGARA on October 8, 2010 at 1:49pm

you need to download STRUCTURAL DRAWING TOOLSET plugin
http://ssi.wikidot.com/downloads

Permalink Reply by Roberto Garcia Rosales on October 8, 2010 at 2:12pm

Permalink Reply by Jon Mirtschin on October 8, 2010 at 2:42pm

Hi Roberto, I just responded to your comment on the image shown above. Mario can attest that there is particular problems with loading my grasshopper plug-ins in 64 bit windows (and even on some computers with 32 bit windows), but we have always got it working following the instructions I set out there.

I'll help further if you have no luck.

Cheers,

Jon